Thursday, January 31, 2013

Proposal: A lannister always pays his debts

Timed out and failed, 2-6. Patrick loses 4 Credibility, Larrytheturtle and Patrick lose 2 Credibility for voting FOR, Clucky, Koen, Murphy, robo1995, scshunt and Spitemaster all lose 2 for non-voting.

Adminned at 03 Feb 2013 02:44:44 UTC

Add a new rule to the ruleset, entitled “Debt” and give it the following text:

Any Honourable Member may, at any time, ask another Honourable Member to vote a certain way on a specified proposal (this can be done either publicly; in a post or comment, or privately; in a private message or some other means of communication). Should the Honourable Member accept to vote a certain way on the specified proposal they must clearly communicate their intent. Once the specified proposal has been resolved the Honourable Member who asked the other Honourable Member to vote a certain way on a proposal is considered to be “in dept to” or “indebted to” said Honourable Member. The Honourable Member to whom a debt is owed must make a public story post containing the text “DEBT” in the title within 24 hours of the specified proposal being resolved, if such a post is not made under these conditions by the Honourable Member to whom the debt is owed, the debt is made invalid.

When an Honourable Member is owed a debt by another Honourable Member, they may call in this debt at any time by making a public story post with the word “DEBT” in the title and specifying who will be paying the debt, it is not necessary for them to include any more details about the debt itself. They should then communicate with the indebted Honourable Member about the details of the debt, and once a compromise has been reached the indebted Honourable Member should post a comment to the story post, the comment should specify that they accept the debt, otherwise the comment should specify that they do not accept the debt, if no such comment is posted within 24 hours the indebted Honourable Member loses 2 Credibility and will continue to lose 2 Credibility every 24 hours that a comment specifying that they accept or do not accept the debt is not posted.

A debt must not, unless the indebted Honourable Member agrees to it, directly or indirectly sabotage the indebted Honourable Member or cause the indebted Honourable Member to lose Credibility. If the indebted Honourable Member feels that this condition is being broken and a compromise between the indebted Honourable Member and the Honourable Member to whom the debt is owed can not be reached, their comment on the post calling in their debt should specify that they do not accept the debt, once this comment is posted either Honourable Member may present this case publicly or privately to the Speaker, who will act as a mediator and will side with either the indebted Honourable Member or the Honourable Member to whom the debt is owed, judging as fairly as they are able to. If the Speaker sides with the indebted Honourable Member, the Honourable Member to whom the debt is owed will lose 15 Credibility, and the Honourable Member to whom the debt is owed may propose another Debt to the indebted Honourable Member. If the Speaker sides with the Honourable Member to whom the debt is owed, the indebted Honourable Member will lose 2 Credibility and should comment on the post calling in their debt specifying that they accept the debt.

Once the indebted Honourable Member has paid their debt they should make a story post with the words “DEBT PAID” in the title, this post should specify to whom the debt was paid. The Honourable Member to whom the debt is owed should then make a comment specifying that the debt has indeed been paid, once this comment is posted the indebted Honourable Member is no longer in debt, otherwise . If the Honourable Member to whom the debt is owed does not post a comment specifying that the debt has been paid within 24 hours they lose 2 Credibility, they continue to lose Credibility for every 24 hours that they do not make such a comment. If they have not made such a comment after 72 hours the indebted Honourable Member is no longer in debt. If the Honourable Member to whom the debt is owed posts a comment specifying that the debt was not paid, and provides ample evidence (this will be judged at the Speaker’s discretion) that proves that the debt has not been paid, the indebted Honourable Member’s Credibility will drop to 0 and they will no longer be in debt.

If the Honourable Member accepted a debt that they did not pay, their Credibility will drop to 0 and the debt they owe is made invalid.

An action that benefits the Honourable Member to whom a debt is owed, but not the indebted Honourable Member, will not be considered an action that sabotages the indebted Honourable Member.

Sorry for it being so long and sometimes redundant, I wanted to make sure I had all my bases covered and that there were no loopholes. If there is still anything ambiguous here, or something else that needs to be changed, anybody is welcome to post a Deliberation changing it as I won`t be home for the next couple of days and will have limited wifi access.

Comments

Skju:

02-01-2013 01:26:04 UTC

Good idea, but I’m not even going to try to Deliberate on this. If anyone does, make sure to complete the sentence “The Honourable Member to whom the debt is owed should then make a comment specifying that the debt has indeed been paid, once this comment is posted the indebted Honourable Member is no longer in debt, otherwise .” in the 4th paragraph.

RaichuKFM:

02-01-2013 02:13:12 UTC

against But iffy on it.

Larrytheturtle:

02-01-2013 02:20:57 UTC

for

nqeron:

02-01-2013 05:51:27 UTC

against CoV

Purplebeard:

02-01-2013 07:31:39 UTC

against

Josh: HE/HIM

02-01-2013 12:33:42 UTC

against but I would like to comment Patrick on his masterful use of several different types of word, including nouns, pronouns, verbs, adverbs, adjectives, prepositions and gerunds.

Josh: HE/HIM

02-01-2013 12:34:06 UTC

against but I would like to commend Patrick on his masterful use of several different types of word, including nouns, pronouns, verbs, adverbs, adjectives, prepositions and gerunds.

Klisz:

02-01-2013 20:09:35 UTC

against

Skju:

02-02-2013 15:12:03 UTC

against