Saturday, December 18, 2010

Proposal: Additional values

Self-killed -Darth

Adminned at 19 Dec 2010 14:33:22 UTC

If a rule entitled Bricks exists, add the following to the end of the rule:

All standard bricks are considered to have a height of 1.

Non-standard bricks are listed as subrules to this rule.

Add the following as a subrule, entitled Flat Bricks:

A flat brick is one quarter of the height of a standard brick (i.e. it has a height of 0.25). Otherwise a flat brick has the same qualities and is subject to the same restrictions as a normal brick.

Add the following as a subrule, entitled Hinge Bricks:

A hinge brick has a height of 0.25.

A hinge brick must have the following qualities:

* Colour - a hinge brick may be any of the colours available to standard bricks
* A size, which is the number of bumps on top of the brick
* Dimensions. The dimensions of a hinge brick are 2x[y], where [y] is the length of the brick. The width of a hinge brick is always 2. [y] multiplied by 2 must always be equal to the hinge brick’s size.

The hinge on a hinge brick always runs along its length between the two rows of its width. The value of a hinge brick is always its size multiplied by 2.

I don’t know what a hinge brick is going to do, yet?

Comments

Subrincinator:

18-12-2010 21:22:37 UTC

imperial It’ll do something cool.  But this proposal doesn’t specify that a hinge brick may in fact have a hinge.  Are the implications in the final paragraph solid enough?

Nice graphic.

Darknight: he/him

18-12-2010 21:33:47 UTC

imperial

Thane Q:

18-12-2010 21:42:50 UTC

against Flat bricks were 1/3 the size of large bricks, not 1/4. Also, don’t see a point of hinge bricks.

Josh: Announcer he/him

18-12-2010 22:02:32 UTC

Thane - it’s the second proposal of a dynasty. nothing has a point yet.

The size issue seems like an odd issue to vote something down over though. If it matters that much, why not propose a fix?

Thane Q:

18-12-2010 22:17:11 UTC

I can’t be random? Must there be a method behind every madness?

Roujo: he/him

18-12-2010 22:21:21 UTC

for Per Thane Q

Clucky: he/him

18-12-2010 22:31:09 UTC

against

“The hinge on a hinge brick always runs along its length between the two rows of its width. The value of a hinge brick is always its size multiplied by 2.”

I don’t understand what that even means. I’d rather not add complex yet meaningless components so early. Establish basic brick rules, then add fancy stuff later.

Klisz:

18-12-2010 22:31:41 UTC

for

Subrincinator:

18-12-2010 22:41:51 UTC

Gollee, folks- give the Brick Master some leeway here, eh?

Subrincinator:

18-12-2010 22:57:43 UTC

Clucky, it means that some lego bricks have hinges, so that you can make doors and stuff.  A hinge brick is long and narrow, and the hinge runs through the middle lengthwise.

Not as basic as a ‘standard’ brick, but a good deal less fancy the neon green translucent hinged brick that’s used for the windscreens of spacecraft.  Or the palm tree brick, or the pirate cannon brick.  A hinge seems pretty basic.

Clucky: he/him

18-12-2010 23:03:42 UTC

@Subrincinator:

two things

1) I’ve be in lots of dyasties that have really failed to take off because there wasn’t enough gameplay mechanics early enough and instead everyone just added a bunch of extra rules that didn’t do a whole lot. The start of a dynasty is really important, and I think the current phrasing does more harm than good.

2) I know what a hinge brick is *supposed* to do. My point was that its completely unclear just from the rule, which is bad.

Subrincinator:

18-12-2010 23:06:06 UTC

@ Clucky: Got it.  Thanks.

Hyronious:

18-12-2010 23:24:27 UTC

against

iqforu:

18-12-2010 23:45:19 UTC

against

I agree with Clucky. I have no problem with the rule, except that it could be clearer. I’d kind of like to see how bricks will be manipulated before adding complexities like height and hinges, but thats not a big hangup for me.

And I was also going to point out that they are 1/3 the height (not that it matters :P)

Josh: Announcer he/him

19-12-2010 09:33:46 UTC

This was mostly a response to the unease in the last proposal that bricks at present didn’t have height. The flat bricks bit is really more important than the hinge bricks bit, although I do understand why people are getting caught up on that.

scshunt:

19-12-2010 09:46:21 UTC

against

Josh: Announcer he/him

19-12-2010 10:45:01 UTC

against s/k in favour of Subrincator’s split-outs.