Saturday, April 30, 2022

Hello this is a little embarrassing

My computer crashed this morning with an important excel file unsaved, and now I don’t know who has what fate with whom. Please could at least on rep of each Fate DM to me to tell me who’s where? I will then immediately save aforementioned excel spreadsheet, and also inform Gozherd of who they’re on a team with.

Thanks!

Proposal: Boustrophedon

Reached quorum 6 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 01 May 2022 09:42:30 UTC

In “Argumentation”, replace “Any Memory of Atlantis may resolve any Argument that has not been resolved” with:-

Any Memory of Atlantis may resolve the oldest Argument that has not been resolved

Echoing the proposal queue, to pre-empt cases where the enactment order might make a difference.

Friday, April 29, 2022

Proposal: Is this going to be fun? I don’t know

Withdrawn. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 01 May 2022 09:41:08 UTC

Add a new dynastic rule to the ruleset, called Facts on the Ground:

Memories of Atlantis may take actions based on their understanding of instructions of the ruleset that are wholly or partially in Atlantean, where that Atlantean does not have an agreed, tracked meaning; such an action is a Interpreted History Action.

All Interpreted History Actions must be publicly tracked in a log, along with the section of ruleset that justified it and the precise gamestate change that was made as a result of the interpretation.

When a Interpreted History Action is rendered invalid, either by a piece of Atlantean language gaining a concrete meaning that contraindicates the change made in the Interpreted History Action in question, or directly by the passage of a CfJ, or by the failure of a CfJ or DoV that attempted to establish its legitimacy, the Interpreted History Action in question may be reverted by any Memory of Atlantis and its entry may be removed from the log.

Proposal: Some new symbols and old

Timed out 1 vote to 1, with 1 unresolved DEF. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 01 May 2022 09:40:37 UTC

Create a rule called Fate Rule: Declaration of UNKNOWN FATE, with the following contents:

Proposal: Fated To Obey

Timed out and failed, 4-1. Josh

Adminned at 01 May 2022 08:12:44 UTC

Create a subrule of Fates called Fated To Obey with the following text:

Each rule starting with “Fate Rule” is followed by players having a certain Fate. The Fate for that rule is whichever Fate is in the rule’s title, if a single fate exists there. For example, “Fate Rule: Echoing Invasion” would be followed by players with the Fate: Invasion.

Whenever a Fate Rule has no associated Fates and no unenacted Assignment story posts, a player may create an Assignment votable matter story post for it. Despite being a Votable Matter, votes in comments are ignored. Instead, each player may vote privately once per assignment, messaging the Linguistics Team with a Fate and the assignment in question.

After more than 24 hours have passed from the post’s creation, the Linguistics Team should enact it and edit the name of the Fate Rule to refer to the Fate that got the most Adjusted Votes, where the Adjusted Votes are the votes the Fate received, plus the Fate’s Influence, minus the number of Fate Rules for the Fate. This result is permitted to be negative. Only votes that were cast in the first 24 hours are counted. In a tie, the winner is chosen randomly between Fates with the highest vote.

(Note: I’ve made a couple of edits without a comment. Mainly that the time was reduced to 24 hours, and the influence and number of fate rules now affect the vote so you don’t get one fate able to earn all of the rules if they have more people.)

Thursday, April 28, 2022

Proposal: A B C, easy as 1 * 3

Reached quorum 6 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 30 Apr 2022 13:50:55 UTC

Add the following to the end of the rule Precious :

Where a Memory of Atlantis has a value for that is comprised of both English numbers and Atlantean elements, it may be expressed as an equation of the two (eg “ + 3”).

Proposal: When The Imposter is Sus

Timed out 1 vote to 4. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 30 Apr 2022 13:49:26 UTC

Repeal the rule “Fates”.

Seems kind of pointless, really, and is likely not helping with how quiet dynastic gameplay is right now.

Story Post: Argument: Substantiation

Adopted. Josh

Adminned at 02 May 2022 08:24:02 UTC

As a property of memory this may relate to how widely or accurately that piece of information now exists: its level of repetition and substantiation among the recovered documents and artefacts of Atlantis, and by extrapolation among the understanding of those who perceive the information in the present day. Symbolically it could represent a human ear.

Wednesday, April 27, 2022

Proposal: Forgiveness Not Permission

Timed out and enacted, 9-0. Josh

Adminned at 29 Apr 2022 09:12:43 UTC

Add the following to the end of the first paragraph of the rule Argumentation:

A Memory of Atlantis or the Linguist Team may make an Argument at any time, except as restricted elsewhere in the ruleset.

Uphold, if necessary, the posting of any Arguments posted before the timestamp of this Proposal.

Proposal: Nothing But The Truth [Core]

Timed out and failed, 2-3. Josh

Adminned at 29 Apr 2022 09:12:11 UTC

Replace the first sentence of the second paragraph of “Victory and Ascension” with:-

When casting a vote on a DoV, that vote must truthfully reflect the voter’s belief as to whether the poster has legally achieved victory in the current Dynasty.

Raising the Bar makes it clearer to readers of the ruleset that DoV votes of “didn’t technically work but I don’t mind” are valid. Perhaps we should consider actually changing that - requiring DoV votes to have the same level of “belief” as the DoV itself, at the time of casting, doesn’t seem an unreasonable bedrock.

Tuesday, April 26, 2022

Story Post: Argument #3

Adminned at 28 Apr 2022 12:06:42 UTC

The Atlantean Scraps evidenced in the rule RECOVERED FRAGMENT 20220419-01 and its subrules all seem to contain arguments that we now know refer to a resource that memories of Atlantis can possess, as well as some numbers and operations. Given what we know about those symbols, isn’t it reasonable to assume that the images in those rules refer to Memories of Atlantis, either generally or specifically? The proposition here is that this symbol means ‘person’ or ‘player’ or ‘metaphysical tendency in our society’ in a way that effectively means ‘Memory of Atlantis’ in the context of our contemporary understanding of their culture.

Monday, April 25, 2022

Proposal: Raising the Bar [Core]

Reached quorum 7 votes to 2. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 27 Apr 2022 13:49:59 UTC

In the rule “Victory and Ascension”, replace “Every Memory of Atlantis may cast Votes on that DoV to indicate agreement or disagreement with the proposition that the poster has achieved victory in the current Dynasty.” with:-

A Memory of Atlantis’s vote on a DoV is encouraged to reflect whether or not they agree with the proposition that the poster has achieved victory in the current Dynasty.

Then replace both instances of “It is Popular” in that rule with:

It has a number of FOR Votes greater than 2/3rds of the number of Memories of Atlantis

Then add a bullet point under “may be Failed” in that rule:

* It is more than 48 hours old and cannot be Enacted

The first “encouraged” amendment here is to fix the issue that came up at the end of the last dynasty, where a player was challenged for supporting a DoV that they didn’t technically agree had worked. The “may cast Votes” clause makes it sound like this is defining the only way to vote on a DoV, but the “Votes” rule is where it actually happens, so it’s legal to vote for a DoV you think is flawed: sticking with that, the DoV line should sound less binding.

The second “popular/failed” amendment is to address the blurriness of voting on DoVs. If we accept votes where a player disagrees that the win is valid but wants to allow it (either because they feel it was close enough, or because it’s nowhere near and they’ve had enough of the dynasty), and we also accept votes where an early voter is entirely persuaded that a DoV didn’t work but tactically declines to update their vote to reflect that, and we also accept votes from new players unidling who haven’t been following the game and just want a new dynasty to start… then it’s probably easier than it should be to get a DoV over the line without a majority even agreeing that it worked. (The last dynasty was particularly unusual for ending with one or even zero players believing that the DoV was valid.)

We could try to write a strict rule that insists that everyone votes honestly and changes their vote as soon as they can, and players who missed the dynasty only vote on a DoV if they’ve read the ruleset and agree that the victory worked. But the more elegant solution might just be to slightly raise the bar that a DoV has to clear: this would mean that a few questionable votes didn’t affect the outcome so much, and would automatically move the “well, I can nearly win, shall we say I won?” gambits out into CfJs or proposals where they’d only require a regular and more achievable quorum of support - and where it’s much more obvious that people can vote how they like on them.

Call for Judgment: Fixing Atlantean Grammar

Enacted popular, 6-0. Josh

Adminned at 26 Apr 2022 19:46:43 UTC

Enact the proposal Basic Atlantean Grammar if it was failed due to an illegal edit that occurred at approximately 9:00 on the 25th. Otherwise, if it was already enacted or if it is still open, uphold that potentially illegal typo fix.

The proposal did reach quorum but the edit that was made is a fairly big one.

Sunday, April 24, 2022

New Mentorship

Gozherd will be mentored by me.

Proposal: Basic Atlantean Grammar

Timed out and enacted,, 8-0. Josh

Adminned at 26 Apr 2022 19:11:36 UTC

Add the following as a new rule to the ruleset, called Precious :

Each Memory of Atlantis has an amount of , which is publicly tracked and defaults to .

Once every , a Memory of Atlantis may their by 2.

Add , , and to the list of tracked Atlantean Elements.

Saturday, April 23, 2022

Proposal: You Had One Job

Reaches quorum and is enacted at 9-0 -SingularByte

Adminned at 25 Apr 2022 05:31:18 UTC

To “Atlantean Languages”, add a paragraph:-

“Linguistics Team” is considered to be a synonym for Linguist Team.

Uphold all past actions attempted by the Linguist Team this dynasty which would have been legal were they instead the Linguistics Team.

Proposal: Scores on the Doors

Withdrawn. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 24 Apr 2022 07:13:26 UTC

In “Fates”, replace “Each Fate has a level of Influence, which is privately tracked by the Linguistics Team. Any time an Argument is enacted, the Influence of the Fate of the Argument’s Author increases by 1. ” with:-

Each Fate has a level of Influence. Those levels are privately tracked by the Linguistics Team, but the values of each of those levels (without saying which Fate they correspond to) are publicly tracked. For each Argument which has been enacted, the Linguistics Team should - once per Argument - increase the Influence of the Fate of the Argument’s Author by 1.

Set the Influence of each Fate to zero.

The invisible scoring is maybe a bit too murky here: what’s been happening?

(The reset to zero is intended as the simplest way to handle changing Influence from something that’s privately tracked and magically-but-not-actually updated when someone other than the Linguistics Team enacts an Argument, into something that the Team updates when they can.)

New Memory

Hello, I wish to be a Memory of Atlantis.

Thursday, April 21, 2022

Story Post: Argument: Comparison

Resolved as Adopted at 6-0 by MadisonSilver
Enacted by SingularByte

Adminned at 22 Apr 2022 16:36:23 UTC

This symbol appears to be some form of generic superlative, indicating that the the object or symbol it is placed under is the “most” or “greatest” of something.  The slight upward slant as you move right along the image indicates that the modified topic is “rising above” other objects of that type, so to speak.  We can see an example of this in FRAGMENT 20220417-02:

This set of symbols likely means “the most ” or “the greatest ”  (The extra symbols aren’t strictly necessary, but may be used to indicate emphasis, or that the relevant quality is “number”/“quantity.”)

In summary, this symbol means “the most” but could be translated as “the longest” or “the largest” in some contexts.

Proposal: 7 Habits

Fails 3-5. - Jumble

Adminned at 22 Apr 2022 04:39:58 UTC

Remove “Each Fate has a level of Influence, which is privately tracked by the Linguistics Team. Any time an Argument is enacted, the Influence of the Fate of the Argument’s Author increases by 1.” from the rule Fates.

Add a new rule, called Influence, with the following text:

Each Memory of Atlantis has an Influence score, which is publicly tracked and defaults to zero.

Whenever a Memory of Atlantis makes a proposal that includes an Atlantean Scrap or posts an Argument they may increase their Influence by 1.

Each Fate also has a level of Influence, which is privately tracked by the Linguistics Team. The Influence of a Fate is the sum of the Influence of each of its members, plus any Influence that that Fate has gained independently. Any time an Argument is enacted, the Influence of the Fate of the Argument’s Author increases by 1.

As a weekly action, if a single Fate has the highest Influence of all Fates, the Linguist Team should make a story post highlighting which Fate has the highest Influence.

Tuesday, April 19, 2022

Proposal: One thing at a time

Times out 10-0 and is enacted -SingularByte

Adminned at 21 Apr 2022 17:56:41 UTC

Add a new rule as a subrule to Atlantean Language, entitled Codex Use:

Whenever an Atlantean Scrap is added to gamestate through any gameplay mechanism, it becomes publicly tracked and should be added to gamestate tracking along with the name of whichever Memory of Atlantis was directly responsible for its addition to gamestate.

Optionally, Memories of Atlantis may publicly track individual elements of Atlantean Scraps. At any time, a Memory of Atlantis may reproduce a single, identifiable, discrete element of an existing Atlantean Scrap, reproduce it as a separate image file, and add it to the gamestate tracking document. Once they have done so, that image (and the element that it depicts) become an Atlantean Element and must be treated as a single coherent concept. If an Atlantean Element has a confirmed English meaning then that may be tracked there, too.

In the rule Argumentation, change “That proposition may include the meaning of a specific symbol” to “That proposition may include the meaning of a specific Atlantean Element”.

Just the Elements from Here’s Chunky

Proposal: Dead men tell no tales

Times out at 9-0 and is enacted -SingularByte

Adminned at 21 Apr 2022 17:51:56 UTC

Create a rule called RECOVERED FRAGMENT 20220419-01 in a position immediately after RECOVERED FRAGMENT 20220417-01 in the ruleset, with the following contents:


Move the rule RECOVERED FRAGMENT 20220417-01 such that it is now a subrule of RECOVERED FRAGMENT 20220419-01.

If the proposal “Here’s Chunky, He’s Dead” was enacted then in the rule Argumentation after the text “They do not count towards proposal counts or limits, but each Memory of Atlantis may only have one pending Argument at a time.” append the sentence:

A Memory of Atlantis may not create an Argument for a discrete element of an Atlantean Scrap if they are the original creator of that element. (The creator of an element is the Memory of Atlantis who uploaded the original Atlantean Scrap containing the first instance of that element, not a Memory of Atlantis who formally defined that element as an Atlantean Element.)

If the proposal “Here’s Chunky, He’s Dead” was not enacted then in the rule Argumentation after the text “They do not count towards proposal counts or limits, but each Memory of Atlantis may only have one pending Argument at a time.” append the sentence:

A Memory of Atlantis may not create an Argument for a specific symbol if they are the original creator of that symbol. (The creator of a symbol is the Memory of Atlantis who uploaded the original Atlantean Scrap containing the first instance of that symbol.)

It would kind of ruin the fun a little if the person who made the element was the authoritative source on the meaning of it, but I don’t feel the restrictions should be too harsh. You can still talk about it, or even ask team members to give the definitions on your behalf secretly.

Monday, April 18, 2022

From the depths

May I get an unidle?

Story Post: Argument: One head is better than two

Resolved as Adopted by Gloopy Ghost at 8-0
Enacted by SingularByte

Adminned at 20 Apr 2022 10:10:43 UTC

To the untrained observer, this glyph from RECOVERED FRAGMENT 20220417-02 would appear to be a double-headed arrow, implying some kind of equivalence between the left hand side and the right hand side. Perhaps, that one may freely convert between the two.
However, I posit that the Atlantean culture would not treat arrows with the same cultural significance as their neighbours. Given that the image is of a line with an arrowhead which is disjointed from an angular object on its right, I posit that this glyph is in fact an atlatl, a spear thrower. The spear is in the process of being hurled to the left from the atlatl, implying a level of asymmetrical conflict inherent in the image.

In conclusion, to me this glyph says that if you have a sentence X [Glyph] Y, then Y damages, disrupts or destroys X or more generally it causes it to not be true. In some contexts, it might be used as the word “except”.

Proposal: Here’s Chunky, He’s Dead

Fewer than a quorum not voting against. Failed 3 votes to 6 by Kevan.

Adminned at 19 Apr 2022 12:41:11 UTC

Add a new rule as a subrule to Atlantean Language, entitled Codex Use:

Whenever an Atlantean Scrap is added to gamestate through any gameplay mechanism, it becomes publicly tracked and should be added to gamestate tracking along with the name of whichever Memory of Atlantis was directly responsible for its addition to gamestate.

Optionally, Memories of Atlantis may publicly track individual elements of Atlantean Scraps. At any time, a Memory of Atlantis may reproduce a single, identifiable, discrete element of an existing Atlantean Scrap, reproduce it as a separate image file, and add it to the gamestate tracking document. Once they have done so, that image (and the element that it depicts) become an Atlantean Element and must be treated as a single coherent concept. If an Atlantean Element has a confirmed English meaning then that may be tracked there, too.

In the rule Argumentation, change “That proposition may include the meaning of a specific symbol” to “That proposition may include the meaning of a specific Atlantean Element”.

Add a new rule to the dynastic ruleset, called Linguist Team Activities:

As a Daily Action, any Memory of Atlantis can send a Nudge, which is an Atlantean Element along with a proposed meaning for that element, to the Linguist Team by private message.

Once every 72 hours, the Linguist Team may Stumble Upon a Meaning, by removing any Nudges that they have received that refer to an existing term in the ruleset or other game concept, and then randomly selecting a Nudge that they have received since the last time they Stumbled Upon Meaning, and then posting the Atlantean Element and the Meaning associated with it to the Blog as a story post. The meaning for that Atlantean Element may then be added to gamestate tracking.

Sunday, April 17, 2022

Proposal: Under the Influence

Enacted 7-0. Josh

Adminned at 18 Apr 2022 19:18:25 UTC

If it exists in the ruleset, replace “Any time an Argument is enacted then” with:

Any time an Argument is enacted, the Influence of

Adding the missing words pointed out in comments on Ghosts of Mars, before we get to any Arguments: the Influence of a Caste/Fate is the thing that should be incremented, not the Caste/Fate itself.

Call for Judgment: Jumping the Gun

Enacted 8-0. Josh

Adminned at 18 Apr 2022 07:32:00 UTC

Uphold the enactment of Proposal: Linguistic Research Submission No. 1.

It was administered before the requisite 12 hours has passed, but I don’t imagine that the outcome would be much changed.

Proposal: I have no clue what I’m doing

Enacted 8-0. Josh

Adminned at 18 Apr 2022 19:16:16 UTC

Add a new rule called “RECOVERED FRAGMENT 20220417-02” with the contents:

Proposal: No forgeries

Enacted 5-0. Josh

Adminned at 18 Apr 2022 19:15:21 UTC

Append the following paragraph to Atlantean Language:

When using images in the contents of a Votable Matter, only images that have been uploaded to the blognomic wiki are permitted, and only then if it has been uploaded with the intent of it being a valid Atlantean Scrap. The Votable Matter may contain text as normal.

Create a subrule of Atlantean Language called Etched In Stone:

Any images that are in Votable Matters and are found nowhere else in the gamestate are subject to the rules described in the Official Posts rule in Gamestate Tracking as if they were written contents of the post. All other Atlantean Scraps that are found anywhere in the gamestate other than the aforementioned ones found exclusively in Votable Matters instead fall under the rule Representations of the Gamestate rule in Gamestate Tracking as normal for tracked wiki pages.

The benefit of this rule will be to allow editing under the 4 hour rule as normal.

Proposal: Dank Memes

Enacted 5-0. Josh

Adminned at 18 Apr 2022 19:14:04 UTC

Replace the first paragraph of “Castes” with:-

Memories of Atlantis each contain a perceived Fate of Atlantis (known as that Memory of Atlantis’s Fate), which is privately tracked by the Linguist Team. A Memory of Atlantis’ Fate can be one of the following: Catastrophe, Invasion, Rebellion or Translocation.

Then replace “Caste” with “Fate” throughout the dynastic ruleset and its rule names.

For each Memory of Atlantis whose Caste was Noble immediately before this proposal enacted, their Fate becomes Translocation. Then ex-Artists gain a Fate of Rebellion in the same way, ex-Merchants gain Invasion and ex-Labourers gain Catastrophe.

A different spin, per Josh’s “would be fine with this being voted down / amended in the name of narrative consistency” on Ghosts of Mars. This would make us the stories, not the storytellers.

Proposal: What is an Atlantean Scrap, exactly?

Enacted, 5-0. Josh

Adminned at 18 Apr 2022 19:12:49 UTC

In the ruleset, after the sentence that ends with “may not be interpreted or considered to contain any additional meaning or information beyond that visually represented in it,” add “Any image within the ruleset that meets these criteria is an Atlantean Scrap.”

Proposal: No secrets in Atlantis

Enacted, 7-0. Josh

Adminned at 18 Apr 2022 19:10:44 UTC

In the rule Atlantean Language, replace “black and white” with “greyscale”.
At the end of that paragraph, append “Any text on Atlantean Scraps is to be interpreted as Atlantean Text irrespective of meanings external to the Atlantean language. If an element of an Atlantean Scrap cannot be reasonably seen by looking at the scrap visually, that element is to be ignored.”

If Linguistic Research Submission No. 1 was enacted, but the Atlantean Text failed to be added to the ruleset solely due to being in greyscale, it is to be re-enacted.

Proposal: Ghosts of Mars

Enacted quorate, 7-0. Josh

Adminned at 18 Apr 2022 19:10:00 UTC

Add a new rule, called Castes:

Memories of Atlantis each have a Caste, which is privately tracked by the Linguistics Team. A Memory of Atlantis’ Caste can be one of the following: Noble, Artist, Merchant or Labourer.

Whenever a Memory of Atlantis joins the game (either as a new player or through unidling for the first time) then the Linguistics Team should select a Caste for them secretly randomly, and inform them of their Caste, as well as any other Memories of Atlantis they share a Caste with.

Each Caste has a level of Influence, which is privately tracked by the Linguistics Team. Any time an Argument is enacted then the Caste of the Argument’s Author increases by 1.

Set the Caste of each Memory of Atlantis as if they were a new player.

Proposal: Linguistic Research Submission No. 1

Reaches quorum at 5-0 and is enacted -SingularByte

Adminned at 17 Apr 2022 14:40:47 UTC

Add a new rule called “RECOVERED FRAGMENT 20220417-01” with the contents:



Sunday, April 17, 2022

can i get unidled please

body text

Well, There’s a First Time for Everything

Post-dynastic discussion thread.

Call for Judgment: Atlantean Spellchecker

Reached quorum 4 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 16 Apr 2022 18:54:01 UTC

In the Ascension Address, there was a command to change Research to Memories of Atlantis, however Research was not a thing and the term was Researcher.

Therefore to resolve this, this cfj is to uphold the change of Researcher to Memories of Atlantis.

Proposal: Academic Rigour

Reached quorum and is enacted at 7-0 -SingularByte

Adminned at 17 Apr 2022 08:49:03 UTC

Add a new dynastic rule, called Argumentation:

An Argument is a special type of votable matter, used to establish or resolve the meaning of Atlantean words or pictographs.

An Argument must contain only a single proposition about a piece of Atlantean language that can be observed in an existing Atlantean Scrap. That proposition may include the meaning of a specific symbol or an argument about the grammar or syntax of the language, and may not make any statement about any other part of gamestate. When an Argument is Adopted, its proposition is publicly tracked and must be accepted as true by all Memories of Atlantis. When an Argument is Rejected it is publicly tracked and must be accepted as untrue by all Memories of Atlantis.

Arguments must be posted in the Story Post: Votable Matter category. They do not count towards proposal counts or limits, but each Memory of Atlantis may only have one pending Argument at a time.

Any Memory of Atlantis may resolve any Argument that has not been resolved, on the following basis:
* If the Argument has been open for voting for at least 24 hours, has at least one vote cast on it by a Memory of Atlantis other than its author, and has more FOR votes than AGAINST votes, it may be Adopted.
* If the Argument has been open for voting for at least 24 hours, and it cannot be Adopted, then it can be Rejected.
* In either case, the resolving Memory of Atlantis should post a comment to the Argument detailing the number of votes tallied and the outcome of the resolution.

Any admin may set a resolved Argument to the Enacted (if Adopted) or Failed (if Rejected) status at any time.

Proposal: The Soul Of Wit

Reached quorum and is enacted at 6-0 -SingularByte

Adminned at 17 Apr 2022 08:46:16 UTC

Add a new dynastic rule, called Atlantean Langauge:

In this dynasty, Proposals by Memories of Atlantis face the following limitation:

*They may add a maximum of 200 words of English language text to the dynastic ruleset

Dynastic rules may contain either (or a mix of) English language text or Atlantean text. Atlantean text is a pictographic language that is found on Atlantean Scraps; where an Atlantean Scrap would be part of a rule then that Scrap must be embedded into the ruleset.

An Atlantean Scrap must be a static, single-frame PNG, JPEG or GIF image, in black and white only, and may not be interpreted or considered to contain any additional meaning or information beyond that visually represented in it.

All Atlantean Scraps recovered so far, and the meanings of any pieces of Atlantean text, are publicly tracked.

Ascension Address: Dive

A sole point of light in the murky darkness, the DSV Haniver sliced silently through the eternal darkness of the abyss, its strong headlamp picking out nothing but occasional glimpses of the divergent biology of the hadal zone.

The on-board instruments read a depth of 35,211 feet, and still decending. It had been hours, and thousands of feet, since its crew had seen the light of the sun. But still they crowded around the small porthole windows, each desperate to be the first to catch a glimpse of the ruins of Atlantis.

Only one member of the crew, the linguist, kept their seat in the stern of the craft. They were the one who had deciphered the co-ordinates, who found the fragment of Atlantean text on the island temple, who had raised the funding and the crew for this mission.

In their hands, they held a tiny scrap of paper, the only piece of the written Atlantean language to have made it to the surface. They turned it around and around in their hands, as if they didn’t already know perfectly well what it said, as if that would make the meaning any more scruitable.

It was just a fragment, a torn piece of vellum parchment, half chewed away by time and tides. They held it between thumb and forefinger, the mouthing the translation as they read: “... has Achieved Victory”.

Change Department Head to Linguist Team and Research to Memories of Atlantis. Repeal all dynastic rules, and make the following changes to Special Case rules: set Dormancy to Inactive, set Mantle Limitations to Active, make the Dynastic Tracking page be [[Atlantean Codex]].

Friday, April 15, 2022

Call for Judgment: Whatever

Failed with quorum against, 2-4. Josh

Adminned at 16 Apr 2022 15:08:02 UTC

Remove Emperor status from Josh.  Start a Metadynasty.

Explanation: “Every Researcher may cast Votes on that DoV to indicate agreement or disagreement with the proposition that the poster has achieved victory in the current Dynasty.”, but Josh and GloopyGhost voted FOR despite not believing victory had been achieved.  I fully expect this CfJ to fail but we have an evening to kill so I’m just throwing this out here

Thursday, April 14, 2022

Declaration of Victory: Dominion

After 24 hours and with quorum votes in favour, this surprisingly passes, 3-1. Josh

Adminned at 15 Apr 2022 20:12:16 UTC

Per the post Declaring Dominion over Randomness and the rule Theses, I have achieved Victory.

Declaring Dominion over Randomness

My Thesis Hash is LEFTMOSTFALSEAngel’s CloverUNDEFINEDQubit Entanglement0Blobber Breakneck BarrelingRoujoWill it BlendzeropointthreerecurringEGGSEGGSEGGS.

AKA:
LEFTMOST: FALSE
Angel’s Clover: UNDEFINED
Qubit Entanglement: 0
Blobber Breakneck Barreling: Roujo
Will it Blend: 0.3 recurring

LEFTMOST: Use the 1980s pager to perform the LEFTMOST method. That requires me to run Qubit Entanglement; I do so using the Test Qubit. That returns a 1, which is not the leftmost result in the Qubit Entanglement return range, so
Angel’s Clover: No material can be used to generate a result for Angel’s Clover, but doesn’t appear to have to be, so I just run Angel’s Clover as is. The method of Angel’s Clover says “If this Method is not run as part of another Method return UNDEFINED as a string”, so
Qubit Entanglement: Running it using the Order Slip, returning a 0.
Blobber Breakneck Barrelling: Running it using Blobber Kennels, returning Roujo.
Will It Blend: Due to the LEFTMOST and Qubit Entanglement probes, the current returns for Qubit Entanglement on Test Qubit and Order Slip are 0 and 1 respectively. Use Kitchen; the average of 0, 1 and 0 is 0.3 recurring, so

I have therefore achieved dominion over randomness.

Proposal: Nine Nine Nine Nine Nine Nine [Appendix]

Vetoed. Josh

Adminned at 16 Apr 2022 18:27:15 UTC

Repeal all dynastic rules.  Remove the Synonyms for Player and Emperor.  Start a Metadynasty.

Proposal: Clean Fight

Vetoed. Josh

Adminned at 16 Apr 2022 18:26:52 UTC

Make the Special Case rule Mantle Limitations active.

Proposal: Thaler and Sunstein

Vetoed. Josh

Adminned at 16 Apr 2022 18:26:33 UTC

Add a new Probulator Function to the Probulator Functions rule:

The Denaturer
Output range: 0,1, 2, 3
Default forecast output: 1
Method: Return the forecast output. Select a number of Materials equal to the forecast output and set the forecast output for each of those materials to whatever value it had before the most recent time that it was changed as the result of being Used (materials that have never been Used can be selected but do not have their forecast values altered). Iterate the Forecast Output by 1; if that results in a value of 4 set it instead to 0.

Wednesday, April 13, 2022

Asking myself my own emotional state

Kind of hungry actually.
(Method: Ensure that the forecast output of this function is up to date as per this rule, then return the forecast output, and then make a post to the Blog asking the Emotion Operator how they are feeling. The Emotion Operator should respond to any such post as soon as possible with an honest impression of their own interiority; when they do so, any Researcher may update the Forecast Output field of their entry to reflect the most recent available information. )

A reminder that the community guidelines exists

Particularly this phrase:

“Players are expected to maintain an assumption of good faith and to step away from the game when that assumption cannot be maintained.”

Accusing a player of doing something “because someone you don’t like is about to win” is pretty clearly not maintaining good faith.

I encourage anyone who feels this way to step away from the game, as failing to do so would be admitting they are in violation of the community guidelines. Myself included.

So I’m going idle. Will be interesting to see if anyone else has to go idle because of this or if some people just don’t think the community guidelines apply to them…

Proposal: Doubletime

Enacted popular, 3-0. Josh

Adminned at 14 Apr 2022 19:36:03 UTC

In the rule “Theses” replace “past week” with “past 24 hours”

Proposal: Loose ball

Withdrawn. Josh

Adminned at 13 Apr 2022 18:03:19 UTC

If CfJ: Forgot to Save my Thesis has not been enacted, enact it.

In the rule Theses, change the steps in the atomic action Declare Dominion over Randomness to read as follows:

- Make a post to the blog publicly declaring their Thesis
- If the revealed Thesis contains a valid Thesis Hash Base then the Researcher performing the action has successfully declared dominion over randomness and achieves victory in the current dynasty

As of right now I’m the only Researcher with a valid thesis, and I have that field clear to myself for the next week. It’s not impossible to prevent me from winning but, I mean, maybe this is unfair or a misread but I’m not seeing a lot of will in the room. Unless anyone has a good scam in their back pockets, how about we skip through it and get to the next dynasty?

Monday, April 11, 2022

Call for Judgment: Forgot to Save my Thesis

Timed out and failed, 4-2. Josh

Adminned at 14 Apr 2022 07:04:37 UTC

Update the rule “Theses”’ text to be the following:

A Thesis consists of five different Probulator Functions, one output for each of those functions, and a salt which is a flavor text string which can be any value. A Thesis Hash Base is constructed by concatenating the name of each function in a given thesis with its output in said thesis, concatenating all five of those together, and then appending the salt. For example if a thesis consisted of the following:

Qubit Entanglement - Output 0
Quantum-Economic Indicator - Output: 3.14
Wavefunction Observation - Output: 136
Emotion Engine - Output: Sad
Hype Machine - Output: 9

Salt - Redrum

Then the Thesis Hash Base for the example Thesis would be “Qubit Entanglement0Quantum-Economic Indicator3.14Wavefunction Observation136Emotion EngineSadHype Machine9Redrum”

The Thesis Hash is the sha256 hash of a Thesis Hash Base (for the above example thesis, it would be 734222870f7a3a832dcb1ce33a0df6c28cf4c8a4fa997b68fa5790e97475bd21).

Each Researcher may have a Thesis and may change their Thesis at any time, being sure to update their Thesis Hash Base. The Thesis Hash of a Researcher’s thesis is publicly tracked (if a Researcher has no Thesis, they also have no Thesis Hash). By Default, a Researcher has no Thesis. Thesis and Thesis hash bases are privately tracked by their Researcher. If a Thesis Hash Base is out of sync with what a Researcher claims their Thesis is, it is the Thesis Hash Base which is considered to be the proper value and the researcher’s Thesis is considered to be invalid.

If a Researcher has a valid Thesis, and their Thesis has not been changed (including setting it from having previously had no thesis) for the past week they attempt to Declare Dominion Over Randomness by performing the following atomic action:
- Make a post to the blog publicly declaring their Thesis
- For each Probulator Function in their Thesis, use the Probulator to determine an outcome
- If each generated outcome exactly matches the output for that function in the thesis, the Researcher performing the action has successfully declared dominion over randomness and achieves victory in the current dynasty
- If not, the Researcher performing the action has their Thesis set have no Thesis.

Revert the gamestate to its state before SingularByte’s attempted correction of Theses Pieces’ enactment (i.e https://wiki.blognomic.com/index.php?title=BlogNomic_Research_Lab&oldid=19557).  Rename the “Thesis” field in it to “Thesis Hash.”

Declaration of Victory: My blobber ate my thesis

Timed out and failed, 3-3. Josh

Adminned at 13 Apr 2022 11:54:42 UTC

I have a Blobber Quantity of five. My Thesis has not changed for a whole week after being set, which was shortly after the enactment of Theses Pieces. My Thesis has a hash of e3b0c44298fc1c149afbf4c8996fb92427ae41e4649b934ca495991b7852b855 which represents following outputs: Empty string from Angel’s Clover, Empty string from Angel’s Clover, Empty string from Angel’s Clover, Empty string from Angel’s Clover, Empty string from Angel’s Clover, and no salt, which put together gives a plaintext of an empty string. This has the same contents as my Blobber Imprints due to that also being blank.
On that basis, I declare victory.

Given that this declaration of victory is on the basis of the old version of Theses as described in the proposal Ninety-Five, I should probably point out how I’m able to use that version rather than the more complex version described in Theses Pieces. To put it simply, I assert that Theses Pieces did not overwrite the rule Theses and instead simply overwrote the text held in every Researcher’s Thesis.

My logic is as follows:
The proposal started with the line of text “Add a new rule called “Theses” to be the follow, or if such a rule already exists remove everyone’s Thesis, then update its text to be the following”.
The key part I’m going to look at is “update its text to be the following”. This commands the update of “its” text, but there’s two possible candidates for this update, both of which have text. There’s the rule “Theses”, and there’s everyone’s Thesis (which I’ll note is stated in the singular, not the plural).
For the purposes of argument, I’m going to replace “its” with both “the rule’s” and “the Thesis’” which gives two equally valid sentences.
“if such a rule already exists remove everyone’s Thesis, then update the rule’s text to be the following”
“if such a rule already exists remove everyone’s Thesis, then update the Thesis’ text to be the following”

Given that both are equally viable, my interpretation is to go for the more proximate object of the sentence rather than the other, therefore I have reverted the rules change that Theses Pieces applied, and I’ve instead applied it to every blank Thesis. Anyone who changed it after that rule was enacted has been considered to have overwritten it, which is a valid action in the both the older and the newer version of the rules.

As for any actions that would need to be rolled back as a result of this, I see none. Neither Josh nor myself have placed a hash into a tracked Thesis Hash field and instead have placed the hashes into the Thesis field which is only publicly tracked in the old versions of the rule. No other actions have otherwise been rendered illegal, as the only other action defined in the new version is Declare Dominion which has not yet been performed. Furthermore, there have been no proposals passed which alter or otherwise rely on the newer text of the rule.

Monday, April 11, 2022

Proposal: Make A Nutritious Breakfast

Timed out and enacted, 3-0. Josh

Adminned at 13 Apr 2022 13:05:19 UTC

Make a new rule called Breakfast:

As a Daily Action, a Researcher may Make Breakfast, which is atomic action with the following steps:
- Use the Kitchen on the Arrange the Fridge Magnets Function.
- If the returned result contains any word on the Food List, they may use the “Probe a Material” action two additional times today.
- Otherwise, they may use the “Probe a Material” action one additional time today.

The Food List is “almond, apple, avocado, bacon, banana, beef, butter, cabbage, carrot, cassava, cheese, chicken, chickpea, chocolate, clam, coconut, crab, egg, eggplant, fish, fruit, goat, ham, lamb, legume, lemon, buckwheat, cherry, grape, meat, squash, pumpkin, potato, tuna, maize, maple, melon, mushroom, noodle, onion, pasta, peanut, phytochemicals, plum, pork, potato, ramen, rice, sausage, seafood, sesame, shrimp, soy, strawberry, sushi, sashimi, toast, tomato, tortilla, veal, vegetable, yogurt.”

Saturday, April 09, 2022

Proposal: Wake up

Timed out and enacted, 4-3. Josh

Adminned at 13 Apr 2022 13:04:11 UTC

In the Ruleset,

Change all of the terms denoted as “NULL” into “BANANAS”

🤷‍♀️ Time to wake up

Friday, April 08, 2022

*tap tap*

Chiiika idles out after 7 days of inactivity.  Quorum is now 4.

Wednesday, April 06, 2022

Proposal: I think you mean…

Times out 2-0 and is enacted -SingularByte

Adminned at 08 Apr 2022 06:41:23 UTC

Add the following to “Material Science”

Once per day, provided they have at least 1000 funds, when a Researcher uses the Probulator to generate a result, if their Blobber Imprints contains a value (the new result) which is within the output range of the function they are running they may ignore the standard method for generating the output and instead use the new result as the output. Upon doing so, they must remove the new result from their Blobber Imprints and reduce their funds by 1000.

On the one hand this probably makes it easier for SingularByte. On the other, they are the only one really playing the game so that probably isn’t a bad thing.

Tuesday, April 05, 2022

Entanglement

Thunder (by request), wdtefv (through 8 days of inactivity), and me (through choice) have been made idle; quorum drops to 5.

Proposal: ...and a fix for the probulator

Times out 1-1 and fails -SingularByte

Adminned at 07 Apr 2022 10:15:55 UTC

At the end of the line “When a Researcher uses the Probulator to determine an outcome, they must carry out the method of the specified Function as an atomic action using the result it returns as the outcome.” append the following:

If a method would return multiple outputs while the output range only permits a single output to be returned, and the method does not describe any kind of tiebreaker for choosing which output to return, return the legal value of those outputs that was generated first during that run of the method. If that value was generated simultaneously to multiple legal outputs so that none can be considered to be the first, then the researcher chooses one of those values to be the one returned. If this still does not give any legal outputs, that run of the method is an illegal action.

Proposal: A fix for the races…

Times out 3-0 and is enacted -SingularByte

Adminned at 07 Apr 2022 10:14:57 UTC

Append the following to the method of Blobber Breakneck Barreling: “In cases where multiple Researchers would be outputted, the output is considered to be the first of those Researchers alphabetically.”

Edited at 4:42 UTC for a minor typo fix as noted in comments, outside of edit window.

Proposal: Matchsticks

Times out and fails 1-2 -SingularByte

Adminned at 07 Apr 2022 06:39:04 UTC

Add the following to “Theses”

If a researcher generates another Thesis which is different from but has the same Thesis Hash as a given Thesis, then both Thesis are considered to be invalid. This generation may be done even when the game is in Hiatus, meaning victory obtained from an invalid Thesis may be challenged by posting another Thesis which has the same hash as the one used by the Researcher who Declared Dominion Over Randomness

Hopefully this calms some of Josh’s concerns around abusing the salt to do shenanigans with the hashes. Seems tough to pull out anyways, but seems fine to face any scenario where its unclear if someone changed their thesis cause there are multiple things it could be to generate the same hash to be able to just go “okay yeah nope”

Yes, in theory, someone could reverse sha256 but if they can do that why are they playing blognomic instead of getting rich?

Monday, April 04, 2022

Proposal: No-one has to set an alarm this time

Times out and fails 0-4 -SingularByte

Adminned at 06 Apr 2022 13:47:20 UTC

In the rule Theses, change “If a Researcher has a valid Thesis, and their Thesis has not been changed (including setting it from having previously had no thesis) for the past week they attempt to Declare Dominion Over Randomness by performing the following atomic action:”

to

“If a Researcher has a valid Thesis, their Thesis has not been changed (including setting it from having previously had no thesis) for the past week, and theirs is the oldest extant valid Thesis, then they are the Scholar of Randomness. The Scholar of Randomness should at any time attempt to Declare Dominion Over Randomness by performing the following atomic action:”

Add the following to the end of the same rule:

“If at any time a single Researcher has been the Scholar of Randomness for the preceding 48 consecutive hours then any Researcher may set the thesis of the Scholar of Randomness to blank.”

I’m sure SingularByte will object but the game becomes much less random and frustrating if it’s not a matter of whether I can get started in the 8 minutes between my thesis hitting a week and theirs

Proposal: Pink rock

Times out and fails 0-2 -SingularByte

Adminned at 06 Apr 2022 13:46:14 UTC

In the rule Theses, change “salt which is a flavor text string which can be any value” to “salt which is a flavour text string, which can be any value but which must not contain any words found in the ruleset”.

It still feels a little too possible to have your “salt” be full of stuff that could be in your thesis, with a bit of recontextualising. I’d rather that salts were kept well away from the hash’s content.

Saturday, April 02, 2022

Proposal: Probulator demands Materials

Timed out and enacted, 4-0. Josh

Adminned at 04 Apr 2022 14:55:52 UTC

Append the following text to the rule Probulator Operation as a new paragraph.

If a Researcher is instructed by the rules to use the Probulator to determine an outcome or outcomes but no mention of the material to use has been made, the Researcher is first to Use a Material that has that Function or Functions in its list of Functions; and in cases where a single Material does not have all of the Functions that the Researcher is to determine an outcome for, or in cases where the Researcher chooses to use a different legal Material for one or more Functions, the Researcher can Use as many Materials as necessary to complete their instruction.

This is just to fix an issue that was brought up in Theses Pieces. I know there’s been a little bit of talk about repealing Object Oriented Materials, but I figure this would still work as written even if it was repealed.

Friday, April 01, 2022

Call for Judgment: What exactly is an output?

Timed out and enacted, 6-0 .Josh

Adminned at 04 Apr 2022 11:43:04 UTC

There is an ambiguity around the outputs of Functions of the Probulator. Specifically, it is not clear whether it’s the function’s definition’s forecast output that gets updated or whether it’s the material’s function’s output that gets updated.
Therefore, in the descriptions of all functions that are listed in Probulator Operation on the ruleset page, change their wording in their definitions from “Forecast output” to “Default Forecast output”. The outputs in the BlogNomic Research Lab are not to be altered in this way.
Furthermore, if any of the default forecast outputs were changed through Using a material, revert those changes to the default. The actions still retain their legality as if the changes had been done instead to the outputs in the Blognomic Research lab and if the outputs in the Blognomic Research Lab need to be modified to reflect this, do so.

Proposal: A blobber is for life, not just for research

Enacted 3-1. Josh

Adminned at 04 Apr 2022 11:39:33 UTC

Create a material called Blobber Kennels with a cost of 200 which has the following functions (which are to be created as Probulator Functions):

Name: Blobber Bread Box
Output range: A string in the form of “X Food Pellets” where X is a non-negative integer
Default forecast output: 55 Food Pellets
Method: Starting with the forecast output, reduce the number of food pellets by the total Blobber Quantity of all Researchers summed together, then output the end result. If this would be less than zero food pellets, output “0 Food Pellets” instead. Set the forecast output to be a number of food pellets equal to five times the number of researchers.

Name: Blobber Breakneck Barreling
Output range: The name of a researcher
Default forecast output: SingularByte
Method: For each Researcher except the Researcher named in the forecast output, calculate their Blobber’s weight as follows: work out the number of characters in that Researcher’s name (i.e. their blognomic username) and in their Blobber Imprint, then add those two numbers together to get the weight. If that Researcher performed the method called Blobber Bathing in the last 24 hours, triple the Blobber’s weight for that Researcher because their Blobbers are waterlogged. Output the name of the Researcher who has the lowest Blobber weight calculated here, and set that researcher to be the forecast output so that all Blobbers know whose Blobbers to train to beat.

Name: Blobber Bathing
Output range: Any string
Default forecast output:
Method: Output the Blobber Imprint of the Researcher running this method, concatenated with two characters of the Researcher’s choice from the forecast output (or all characters from the forecast output if there are less than two), then store the newly outputted string as the forecast output. Remove all values from that Researcher’s Blobber Imprint.

Name: Blobber Bedtime
Output range: A string consisting of a number of instances of the letter z
Default forecast output: zzzz
Method: Output a string consisting of a number of instances of the letter z equal to the number of methods that have been run in the last 24 hours, then set the forecast output to that string. If a method has been run more than once in that period, it is counted that number of times for this purpose. It is an illegal action for a Researcher to willingly take an action that would lead to a method being run by them if that Researcher has run already run this method on the same day. Additionally, if an atomic action lets a Researcher choose which order to run methods in, it is an illegal action to order them such that this method is run before any other method as part of that atomic action.

This kennel has everything a Blobber needs. Food, racing, a bath, and then bed for after a long day of playing. These are all intentionally somewhat difficult to predict a week in advance.

Archangel Research Station

pokes has been transferred to Siberia to conduct his tests in a sub-zero setting. Quorum drops to 6.