Regarding my contested victory,
I’m passing the mantle to Rodney. Sort of.
I’m passing the mantle to Rodney. Sort of.
My Declaration of Victory, (which was also a CfJ) Passed automatically at 18:18:38 when it hit a Quorum of FOR votes.
Since it was automatic as per Rule 1.6, passing did not require any admin action.
Hiatus then continues as per Rule 1.9.
Since it was still Hiatus, Hix’ selling eir soul and Rodney’s Switch and Run were illegal, so Rodney’s DoV is incorrect.
Since my DoV passed, the new Dynasty starts once I post an Ascension Adress or announce I’m passing the mantle.
Resolving…
It passes! We move into a new Dynasty, and await the Ascension Address of the new Top Banana, Rodney.
Adminned at 01 Nov 2006 10:37:41 UTC
Thanks to Hix, the Top Banana has been overthrown. I have the highest RBS. Also, Clucky gets a cookie.
Cayvie and Chronos go idle. Quorum drops to 6
In rule two-three-one
The fifth “of” has become a “on”
It is coherent.
I sell my soul.
I have sold myself for 56 beard length and thus must make a post here. Why I didn’t think to do that awhile ago is beyond me. Back when I was at like 15 tastiness, I could have gotten over 100 for my soul. Oh well.
Time to switch and run
No one cares about the “E”
Lets make it an “T”
(The formula for selling is now T*(H+T)/2, instead of E*(H+T/2))
GGAA! Stop doing stuff
*! Now I have to go on a massive reverting spree.
*Roughly speaking, you may only ignore this sentence if your immediate idea of “stuff” is one of the following: idling, unidling, making a CfJ, voting on a CfJ, making a DoV, voting on a DoV, or performing certain administrative functions**.
**EDIT: Also, now that Hiatus is over, you may ignore it.
It seems that Rodny pulled a Switch-and-run to render disfunctional the rule I used to try to achieve victory. Could some kind Admin please fix the obvious typo?
Also, could everyone please vote pay attention to the 2 DoVs in circulation.
Passes
—Hix
Adminned at 01 Nov 2006 10:34:40 UTC
I guess I’d better be the one to write this up.
Before I went idle a couple of dynasties ago, I proposed to outlaw using the phrase “DlCE” to comments in the GNDT. My recent DoV relies on this being sufficient to give the phrase “rolling DlCE” a specific meaning, using the phrase “DlCE” and dictating the result as if I had rolled real DICE. However, I could see this going either way.
This CfJ is for those of you who disagree, or who believe that even if “rolling DlCE” does have that meaning it should not allow me to roll anything outside the original range. Or you may have some complaint about my syntax.
If this CfJ passes, Bucky’s Beard Length shall be reset to 26. Also, no Vegetable shall be permitted to use the same loophole to increase eir Beard Length by more than 3 per roll. Should the Switch and Run that allowed this be undone due to Hiatus and re-done afterwards, the same restrictinos shall apply.
Quick edit: It turns out it was also illegal because it was done during Hiatus.
Top Banana has voted, and 12 hours have passed, so I resolve this DoV.
It fails, and the Hiatus ends.
You can go about your business.
—Hix
Adminned at 30 Oct 2006 07:58:42 UTC
I have more Beard than all others put together.
I am the only monarchist, having an RBS of 0.
I win.
An old ‘tater miner named Fred
despised the low pay, so he said,
“this pay isn’t nice,
so I’ll load the DICE!”
and so we roll DlCE now instead
because he prodded me to use up my Mischeif Fedora for a quick Switch and Run.
To clarify:
In the description of the DL “Potato Mine” in Rule 2.6.1, I changed the capital “I” in DICE to a lower case L (“l”).
Not a valid proposal. Posted during Hiatus.
—Hix
Adminned at 30 Oct 2006 06:52:33 UTC
Remove the following clause from Rule 2.9
, no more than once every 72 hours,
Switching and Running
“Na Vegetable” is cooler.
Than “No vegetable”
(“If no Vegetable has done so within the previous 10 hours” is now “If na Vegetable has done so within the previous 10 hours”). I am no Admin, but if an Admin agrees that becasue “If the Switch and Run causes the word or sentence it appears in to be mistakable for a typographical error, it may be corrected like any other such error by any Admin, as per Rule 1.”, and “na” is clearly a typo of “an” then we can break the game by having infinite harvest!)
I wanted to use both to change the rule right out… but the rules say I cant <_
<. *hopes that was a legal use of switch and run*
24 Hours have passed, so I resolve this DoV. It fails, but Hiatus continues.
—Hix
Adminned at 30 Oct 2006 07:27:23 UTC
A Monarchist Vegetable’s Royal Blood Score(RBS) is equal to eir Tastiness times eir Exoticity. If the total Beard Length of all Vegetables with this inclination is greater than the tobal Beard Length of all Vegetables with other Inclinations besides Anarchist, then the Monarchist Vegetable with the highest RBS has acheived victory unless another Monarchist Vegetable has the same RBS
I’m not sure who Tobal is, or why e is related to beards, but it seems that no Vegetables with other Inclinations has tobal beard length. 12 is greater than 0. And I’m the only Vegetable with an RBS, thus I have achieved victory.
I switched and ran
Total BL to Tobal BL
The end is now here
Vetoed by the new Director
—Hix
Adminned at 02 Nov 2006 09:38:57 UTC
Give all Vegetables 10 Mischeif Fedoras, in addition to any they already have.
This should be enough to end the dynasty by cooperative word laddering.
Aye, what’s that there I see in the Top Banana’s Chamber???? Must be nothing1, because I don’t notice a thing.
Despite being dictatorial for the time being, and therefore generally in favour of Elias IX, I have to point out that eir beard is ridiculous and outlandish. It isn’t so much barbering as topiary. In my opinion, e should start improvements by making it cheesier, but then I do find cheesy beards awesome.
Hello to you vegetables. Looks like I’ve arrived just in time for the end. I’ll gen up on the rules hastily, and try not to make trouble. Apologies for any unwitting faux pas: I’m new to the Nomic concept as well as to this game.
(Hiatus is over)
Timed out (4-0)
Enacted by Hix
Adminned at 30 Oct 2006 08:25:54 UTC
Add to the list of DLs
*(Dry, hot, Dark, Strange, Painful) Septadimensional Spacetime Warp. (When a vegetable with this DL has eir DL changed, eir DL may be changed to any other DL regardless of dimensions)
Times out at 6-0. -Rodney
Adminned at 29 Oct 2006 01:51:21 UTC
In Rule 2.3, replace the text
Vegetables with a Exoticity below one may not change their Inclination.
with
Each Vegetable may occasionally change eir Inclination to any legal value.
Times out at 6-0. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 27 Oct 2006 14:39:03 UTC
If the Proposal titled “The end is near” failed, change the Top Banana’s Inclination to Apathetic.
Change the rule Apocalypse to the following, or create the rule if it doesn’t exist:
If the Top Banana ever retains the same inclination for 72 hours, the following happens, depending on that inclination:
*If the Top Banana is Anarchist, all Dynastic rules (Section 2 of the Ruleset) are repealed, and the game enters a metadynasty. Get pissed, destroy!
*If the Top Banana is Communist, the Vegetable (other than the Top Banana), whose Beard Length is closest to the average Beard Length of all vegetables achieves victory, unless another Vegetable has the same Beard Length.
*If the Top Banana is Dictatorial, e may choose a Vegetable within 24 hours. If e does, that Vegetable achieves victory.
*If the Top Banana is Democratic, a public vote is held, closing 24 hours after this paragraph is invoked. The Vegetable with the most votes achieves victory.
*If the Top Banana is Monarchist, e must choose a Vegetable within 24 hours. That Vegetable achieves victory.
*If the Top Banana is Tangelocratic, a public vote is held, closing 24 hours after this paragraph is invoked. Each Vegetable’s vote is multiplied by eir Beard Length. The Vegetable with the most votes achieves victory. Long beards indicate wisdom…
*If the Top Banana is Theocratic, e must choose 3 vegetables within 24 hours, after which the winner shall be determined by a DICE3 roll. That winner, of course, achieves victory.
*If the Top Banana is Apathetic, nothing happens.
...
Timed out (2-1 with 3 deferential)
Enacted by Hix, against eir better judgment
Adminned at 27 Oct 2006 11:35:46 UTC
Add a new Rule to the Ruleset, entitled “Endgame”, and containing the following text:
All Vegetables who gain the “Mischievous” Enhancement immediately lose that Enhancement and gain a Mischief Fedora.
All Vegetables who have the “Mischievous” Enhancement lose that Enhancement and gain a Mischief Fedora.
self-killed
Failed by Hix
Adminned at 27 Oct 2006 11:33:26 UTC
Often, a vegetable may EITHER reduce its Beard Length by 15 and target another vegetable by making a comment to the GNDT of “GAMBLE XXXX DICEY†Where XXXX is the name of a another vegetable and Y is the total number of “Special Enhancements†in the rules plus four OR reduce its Beard Length by 10 choose to target itself by making a comment to the GNDT of “GAMBLE SELF DICEY†where Y is the same value as before.
If the result is Y, the targeted vegetable’s beard length is increased by 100.
If the result is Y-1, the targeted vegetable’s Healthfulness and Tastiness are decreased by 3 each.
If the result is Y-2 or Y-3, nothing happens.
If the result is anything else, the Nth enhancement (as ordered by the rules) where N is the dice roll is applied on the vegetable. If the vegetable already has that enhancement, the enhancement is then removed.
Add the following subrule to 2.5 Beards called “Gambling”
Often, a vegetable may EITHER reduce its Beard Length by 15 and target another vegetable by making a comment to the GNDT of “GAMBLE XXXX DICEY” Where XXXX is the name of a another vegetable and Y is the total number of “Special Enhancements” in the rules plus four OR reduce its Beard Length by 10 choose to target itself by making a comment to the GNDT of “GAMBLE SELF DICEY” where Y is the same value as before.
If the result is Y, the targeted vegetable’s beard length is increased by 100.
If the result is Y-1, the targeted vegetable’s Healthfulness and Tastiness are decreased by 3 each.
If the result is Y-2 or Y-3, nothing happens.
If the result is anything else, the Nth enhancement (as ordered by the rules) where N is the dice roll is applied on the vegetable. If the vegetable already has that enhancement, the enhancement is then removed.
Reaches Quorum (7-2)
Enacted by Hix
Adminned at 27 Oct 2006 11:27:33 UTC
Change the Top Banana’s Inclination to Apathetic.
Add a new rule, Apocalypse:
If the Top Banana ever retains the same inclination for 72 hours, the following happens, depending on that inclination:
*If the Top Banana is Anarchist, all rules are repealed, and the game enters a metadynasty. Get pissed, destroy!
*If the Top Banana is Communist, the Vegetable (other than the Top Banana), whose Beard Length is closest to the average Beard Length of all vegetables achieves victory, unless another Vegetable has the same Beard Length.
*If the Top Banana is Dictatorial, e may choose a Vegetable within 24 hours. If e does, that Vegetable achieves victory.
*If the Top Banana is Democratic, a public vote is held, closing 24 hours after this paragraph is invoked. The Vegetable with the most votes achieves victory.
*If the Top Banana is Monarchist, e must choose a Vegetable within 24 hours. That Vegetable achieves victory.
*If the Top Banana is Tangelocratic, a public vote is held, closing 24 hours after this paragraph is invoked. Each Vegetable’s vote is multiplied by eir exoticity. The Vegetable with the most votes achieves victory. Long beards indicate wisdom…
*If the Top Banana is Theocratic, e must choose 3 vegetables within 24 hours, after which the winner shall be determined by a DICE3 roll. That winner, of course, achieves victory.
*If the Top Banana is Apathetic, nothing happens.
Thrawn, you’re bad at this.
Purplebeard, don’t even try.
Learn to be sneaky.
The Top Banana’s Chamber is now the following:
If a Vegetable who is not the Top Banana has taken this DL, and the Top Banana notices this within the next 24 hours, the Top Banana may publicly humiliate the other Vegetable on the main page and change the other Vegetable’s DL to the Garden. If the Top Banana doesn’t do this and the Vegetable’s DL has been The Top Banana’s Chamber for at least 24 hours, the Vegetable may become Mischievous once afterward.
Really, does Clucky think e can waltz in the Top Banana’s Chamber and not be seen? With eir stub of a beard, how could anyone miss that terrible lack of facial hair walking into that DL? E desecrated the awesomeness of my Cheesy Chamber with eir terrible goatee. You can’t deny Clucky has a good personality, though.
Clucky, you know what this is.
Times out at 3-4. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 23 Oct 2006 11:28:42 UTC
Last time I proposed it, it failed due to inattention.
Add a new DL to the list in Rule 2.6.1:
(Dry,Hot,Light,Strange,Painful): The Furnace (Any Vegetable who enters this DL instantly loses half eir Tastiness, becomes Fried, is consumed and has eir DL set to The Garden, in that order.)
Passes at 6-0. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 23 Oct 2006 11:27:53 UTC
Throughout the Ruleset, replace “when this Enhancement is first applied.†with “a single time when this Enhancement is applied.
Times out at 4-2. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 23 Oct 2006 11:25:39 UTC
add the following text to the end of Rule 2.2.2, in a separate paragraph:
The Vegetable who made the DICE checks may then increase eir Beard Length by one if e wishes (once per Harvest).
Times out (twice) at 2-3. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 23 Oct 2006 11:24:53 UTC
Add the following the rule 2.6.1 DL’s:
(Wet, Cool, Dark, Strange, Painful): The Transporter Room (Any Vegetable with this DL can move to any other DL, provided e still only changes eir DL “often”)
(Wet, Hot, Light, Normal, Luxurious): The Sprinkler (Any Vegetable with this DL may water emself every 12 hours instead of “often”. E can also only not water emself within 3 hours of the last harvest instead of the normal 5)
(Wet, Cool, Light, Normal, Painful):The Cutting Board (Any Vegetable with this DL may often make a comment to the GNDT of “Prepare DICE5”. On a five, that vegetable may change it’s Enhancement to whatever it wants. On a one, that vegetable loses 3 tastiness and healthfulness.)
Times out (twice) at 4-1. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 23 Oct 2006 11:21:41 UTC
Replace the description of “Frozen” in rule 2.4 “Special Enhancements” with(because it fits with both being frozen, and how frozen works).
Frozen: This Vegetable may not be harvested, watered or challenge other Vegetables to beard dyeing competitions, nor can it have an Activity other than “Chilling”. If a vegetable has been frozen for 24 hours and it’s DL is not The Refrigerator, e may remove this enhancement.
And then add the following to the same rule:
Genetically Engineered: When this Enhancement is first applied, this Vegetable’s Tastiness and Healthfulness are both increased by five, but eir Exoticity is decreased by one.
Sautéed: When this Enhancement is first applied, this Vegetable’s Healthfulness is decreased by three and Tastiness is increased by five.
Times out at 3-0. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 21 Oct 2006 05:01:51 UTC
Add a subrule to Rule 2.6 titled “Control” with the words
If the combined beard length of all vegetables with a particular inclination in a DL is at least double that of each other inclination’s vegetables at that DL, the DL is Controled by that inclination. If it has not been done in that DL within the past 24 hours, any vegetable with the inclination that controls the DL they have taken may expel a vegetable with a different inclination and with the same DL by changing that vegetable’s DL to any defined DL with only one dimension different. Dictatorial vegetables may never expel the Top Banana.
Times out at 1-3. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 21 Oct 2006 05:00:34 UTC
Add the following to Rule 2.7
Vegetables who are “Demonstrating” and have an inclination other than Dictatorial or Anarchist may often make a comment to the GNDT of “Protest: DICE3”. The Top Banana’s beard length is reduced by the result of the Protest dice roll. After doing so the vegetable may not change it’s activity for 24 hours. The Top Banana or Vegetables with an inclination of Dictatorial may often make a GNDT comment of “Arrest XXXX: DICE4”, where XXXX is the name of a Vegetable which is “Demonstrating”. The vegetable named loses beard length equal to the value of the Arrest dice roll.
Add the following to Rule 2.7
Vegetables who are “Demonstrating” and have an inclination other than Dictatorial or Anarchist may often make a comment to the GNDT of “Protest: DICE3”. The Top Banana’s beard length is reduced by the result of the Protest dice roll. After doing so the vegetable may not change it’s activity for 24 hours. The Top Banana or Vegetables with an inclination of Dictatorial may often make a GNDT comment of “Arrest XXXX: DICE4”, where XXXX is the name of a Vegetable which is “Demonstrating”. The vegetable named loses beard length equal to the value of the Arrest dice roll.
Times out at 5-0. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 21 Oct 2006 04:54:42 UTC
Throughout the Ruleset, replace “when this Enhancement is first applied.” with “a single time when this Enhancement is applied.”
This scam-proofs the effects of being fried multiple times, for example.
Passes at 6-0. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 21 Oct 2006 04:57:42 UTC
Add to the list of inclinations (and to the GNDT as an inclination):
Apathetic
Add to Politicalities:
Apathetic- Meh.
“The LORD shall open unto thee his good treasure, the heaven to give the rain unto thy land in his season, and to bless all the work of thine hand: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, and thou shalt not borrow.” - Deut. 28:12
“When the heaven is shut up, and there is no rain, because they have sinned against thee; yet if they pray toward this place, and confess thy name, and turn from their sin, when thou dost afflict them;” - 2 Chr. 6:26
Timed out (1-1)
Failed by Hix
Adminned at 20 Oct 2006 13:18:08 UTC
Add a new DL to the list in Rule 2.6.1:
(Dry,Hot,Light,Strange,Painful): The Furnace (Any Vegetable who enters this DL instantly loses 1 Tastiness, becomes Fried, is consumed and has eir DL set to The Garden, in that order.)
Self-Killed. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 18 Oct 2006 14:44:02 UTC
Add a new DL to the list in Rule 2.6.1:
(Dry,Hot,Light,Strange,Painful): The Furnace (Any Vegetable who enters this DL instantly becomes Fried, is consumed and has eir DL set to The Garden.)
Add a new DL to the list in Rule 2.6.1:
(Dry, Cool, Dark, Strange, Luxurious): Bob’s Fertilizer Bar. Vegetables must be here in order to take certain actions from Rule 2.6.1.1.
Add a new Subrule to Rule 2.6.1. Call it “Bob’s Fertilizer Bar”. Give it the following text:
Any Vegetable in Bob’s Fertilizer Bar whose Beard Length is at least twice eir Tastiness may reduce eir Beard Length by twice eir Tastiness to increase eir Tastinesss by 1.
Any Vegetable in Bob’s Fertilizer Bar whose Beard Length is at least half eir Healthfulness may reduce eir Beard Length by half eir Healthiness (round up) in order to increase eir Healthfulness by 1. Round final Beard Length down.
This wording and steep growth formula should kill most infinite-net-worth scams that could come from this. Let me know if it’s too expensive.
How many people here have Facebook accounts? It seems like its group mechanism would be extremely well suited toward running a nomic.
Times out at 6-0. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 18 Oct 2006 01:39:15 UTC
Change the DL The Top Banana’s Chamber to read
(Dry, Cool, Dark, Normal, Luxurious): The Top Banana’s Chamber (If a Vegetable who is not the Top Banana has taken this DL, and the Top Banana notices this within the next 24 hours, the Top Banana may publicly humiliate the other Vegetable on the main page. If the Top Banana doesn’t notice it, the Vegetable may become Mischievous.)
Add the following to the list of DLs
(Wet, Cool, Dark, Strange, Luxurious): The Dairy (Any Vegetable that takes this DL may become cheesy)
The sentence “A vegetable may not change eir activity for 24 hours after Protesting the Top Banana.” presumably applies while I am Protesting the Top Banana, so if my Activity is “Protesting the Top Banana” I can never change it.
Also, it’s vague whether a “protesting Vegetable” is one who has the Activity “Protesting the Top Banana” or one who has done the “Protest: DICE3” recently.
I suggest a total rewrite of that section.
Vetoed by the glorious Top Banana. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 18 Oct 2006 01:38:00 UTC
First try had some problems, such as the top banana being able to protest the top banana. Hope this clears things up.
Add the following to rule 2.7 Activities
Certain activities have certain affects attributed to them as follows:
“Looking for a fightâ€. If a vegetables is “Looking for a fightâ€, they do not need to accept a beard challenge. If another vegetable challenges them, they automatically accept.
“Changingâ€. If a vegetable is “Changing†any other vegetable may often make a comment to the GNDT of “Peeking XXXX DICE4†where XXXX is the changing vegetable. If the dice result is a 1, then the changing vegetable much set eir activity back to “Chilling†and lose 2 healthfulness and tastiness. If a vegetable has been “Changing†for at least 12 hours, then e may change his inclination to any other inclination. E can then continue to Change, but cannot change inclination again for another 12 hours.
“Protesting the Top Bananaâ€. Vegetables who are “Protesting the Top Banana†and have an inclination other than Dictatorship or Anarchist may often make a comment to the GNDT of “Protest DICE3†The Top Banana loses beard length equal to the value of the dice roll. Vegetables that have Inclination Dictatorship, or the Top Banana, may often make a comment of “Arrest XXXX DICE4†where XXXX is the name of a vegetable who is “Protesting the Top Banana”. That vegetable loses beard length equal to the value of the dice roll. A vegetable may not change eir activity for 24 hours after making a protest comment to the GNDT. Vegetables who have inclination Dictatorship but activity “Protesting the Top Banana” may not make arrests. The Top Banana may not Protest the Top Banana.
Self-Killed. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 16 Oct 2006 13:21:19 UTC
Add the following to rule 2.7 Activities
Certain activities have certain affects attributed to them as follows:
“Looking for a fight”. If a vegetables is “Looking for a fightâ€, they do not need to accept a beard challenge. If another vegetable challenges them, they automatically accept.
“Changing”. If a vegetable is “Changing” any other vegetable may often make a comment to the GNDT of “Peeking XXXX DICE4” where XXXX is the changing vegetable. If the dice result is a 1, then the changing vegetable much set eir activity back to “Chilling” and lose 2 healthfulness and tastiness. If a vegetable has been “Changing” for at least 12 hours, then e may change his inclination to any other inclination. E can then continue to Change, but cannot change inclination again for another 12 hours.
“Protesting the Top Banana”. Vegetables who are “Protesting the Top Banana†and have an inclination other than Dictatorship or Anarchist. Often, protesting vegetables may make a comment to the GNDT of “Protest DICE3â€. The Top Banana loses beard length equal to the value of the dice roll. Vegetables that have Inclination Dictatorship, or the Top Banana, may often make a comment of “Arrest XXXX DICE4†where XXXX is the name of a protesting vegetable. That vegetable loses beard length equal to the value of the dice roll.
Add the following to rule 2.7 Activities
Certain activities have certain affects attributed to them as follows:
“Looking for a fight”. If a vegetables is “Looking for a fightâ€, they do not need to accept a beard challenge. If another vegetable challenges them, they automatically accept.
“Changing”. If a vegetable is “Changing” any other vegetable may often make a comment to the GNDT of “Peeking XXXX DICE4” where XXXX is the changing vegetable. If the dice result is a 1, then the changing vegetable much set eir activity back to “Chilling” and lose 2 healthfulness and tastiness. If a vegetable has been “Changing” for at least 12 hours, then e may change his inclination to any other inclination. E can then continue to Change, but cannot change inclination again for another 12 hours.
“Protesting the Top Banana”. Vegetables who are “Protesting the Top Banana†and have an inclination other than Dictatorship or Anarchist. Often, protesting vegetables may make a comment to the GNDT of “Protest DICE3â€. The Top Banana loses beard length equal to the value of the dice roll. Vegetables that have Inclination Dictatorship, or the Top Banana, may often make a comment of “Arrest XXXX DICE4†where XXXX is the name of a protesting vegetable. That vegetable loses beard length equal to the value of the dice roll.
Cheese is awesome. It tastes great and goes well with both pizza and lasagne. It is probably the second most awesome thing ever, so it must be the opposite of Clucky"s beard. Clucky’s beard is so bad that even one strand of it cancels out an entire supermarket of Cheese.
Cheese is awesome. It tastes great and goes well with both pizza and lasagne. It is probably the second most awesome thing ever, so it must be the opposite of Clucky"s beard. Clucky’s beard is so bad that even one strand of it cancelles out an entire supermarket of Cheese.
Times out at 5-0, with one deferential vote. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 16 Oct 2006 13:15:12 UTC
Change all instances of “Theocracy” in the Ruleset and GNDT to “Theocratic”.
Change all instances of “Tangelocracy” in the Ruleset and GNDT to “Tangelocratic”.
Change all instances of “Dictatorship” in the Ruleset and GNDT to “Dictatorial”.
We haven’t quite been fully consistant with regards to these inclinations, Theocratic in particular.
The Potato Mines haven’t been added to the list of DLs
Elias Nine can’t play this game worth shit.
edit: P.S. I enacted the CfJ but I can’t figure out from the mess of a log what values Thrawn had before e rottened to restore.
Times out at 7-0. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 16 Oct 2006 13:08:36 UTC
Change the sentances
The Tasty List is an ordered list of all Vegetables with positive Tastiness that have eir DL set to the Garden. Each such Vegetable appears on the Tasty List a number of times equal to eir Tastiness, and the order of the Vegetables appearing on the Tasty List is the same as their GNDT order.
in rule 2.2.1 to read
The Tasty List is an ordered list of all Vegetables with positive Tastiness that have eir DL set to the Garden or the Kitchen. Each such Vegetable appears on the Tasty List a number of times equal to eir Tastiness, and the order of the Vegetables appearing on the Tasty List is the same as their GNDT order.
Add to the list of Enhancements (in rule 2.4):
*Frozen: This Vegetable may not be harvested, watered or challenge other Vegetables to beard dyeing competitions. If a vegetable has been frozen for 24 hours and it’s DL is not The Refrigerator, e may remove this enhancement.
Add to the list of DLs (in rule 2.6.1):
* (Dry, Cool, Light, Normal, Luxurious):The Kitchen (Any Vegetable with this DL has it’s tastiness doubled for the purposes of sub-rule 2.2.1. If a vegetable with this DL loses a beard dyeing competition, the winner may change that vegetable’s DL to The Frying Pan or the Refrigerator. )
* (Wet, Hot, Dark, Strange, Painful): The Frying Pan (Any vegetable with this DL becomes Fried.)
* (Dry, Cool, Dark, Strange, Painful): The Refrigerator (Any Vegetable with this DL becomes Frozen)
Timed out (5-2)
Enacted by Hix
Not much to do…
Adminned at 16 Oct 2006 08:54:12 UTC
Add
Sub-
Before the last word of the second line of sub-rule 2.3.1 unless Proposal: Disambiguation, plus a change in how rain works passed.
Timed out (5-1)
Enacted by Hix
Adminned at 16 Oct 2006 08:47:07 UTC
Change the description of Anarchy in the Rule “Politicalities” to read:
These Vegetables are considered to be Rotten for the purposes of the rule entitled “Politicalities”.
Also, change the description of Theocracy in the same Rule to read:
Each Vegetable with this Inclination may often make a comment to the GNDT with text “Praying for rain. DICE20”. If the result of the DICE roll is 3, e increases eir Tastiness by 3. If the result is 2, e increases the Tastiness of all Vegetables with this Inclination by 2. If the result is 18, 19 or 20, e increases everyone’s Healthfulness by 1.
I’m back and would like to be a vegetable.
I ask all Vegetables to leave comments on whether they think that Anarchists cannot influence other Vegetables. I assume this conclusion is based on “These Vegetables are considered to be Rotten for the purposes of this Rule”, which appears in Rule 2.3.1 and thus should not restrict attempts to influence. Maybe by discussing it here, we can aviod a CfJ, or at least figure out exactly what issue needs to be CfJ’d.
OMG 6-0 -lars
Adminned at 14 Oct 2006 10:00:08 UTC
Replace every instance of “hatxx0rati0n” in the Ruleset with “Switch and Run”.
The Top Banana’s beard I quite dislike.
6-0 looks like quorum to me -l.a.
Adminned at 14 Oct 2006 09:50:14 UTC
At the time Thrawn became rotten, eir DL, Enhancement, Beard Length and Mischief Fedoras weren’t defined. Since rule 1.2 states “the Vegetable’s personal gamestate retains the values it had immediately prior to eir idling”, some of them still aren’t, namely eir Beard Length and DL. This problem stems from the use of the term “New Vegetables” when determining starting values. I believe that term can’t really refer to Thrawn, em being an Old Vegetable and all.
Therefore, I propose the following is added to the fourth paragraph of rule 1.2:
If one or more values would be undefined, it is set to the value New Vegetables receive, if such a value exists.
If this passes, it should also be applied to Thrawn and anyone else who might have been de-rottened since this was posted.
I have just returned
From my holiday so please
Set me to active
just chuggin’em out 6-0 -lars
Adminned at 14 Oct 2006 09:52:53 UTC
Add a new location to the list in Rule 2.6.1:
(Dry, Hot, Dark, Normal, Painful): Potato Mine (Any Vegetable in the Potato Mine may often post a comment to the GNDT saying “Mining: DICE3”. E then gains Beard Length equal to the result of the roll, but may not leave the Potato Mine for 48 hours after e posted the comment.Vegetables who have had their beards trimmed are often forced to work in the low-paying potato mining industry.)
Passes at 5-0. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 12 Oct 2006 08:18:26 UTC
Change all instances of “hatxxoration” in the Ruleset to “Switch and Run”.
If there are no instances of “hatxxoration” in the Ruleset, then make a post in which Elias IX is brutally insulted in one line of iambic pentameter.
Self-Killed. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 12 Oct 2006 08:16:12 UTC
Add a new location to the list in Rule 2.6.1:
(Dry, Hot, Dark, Normal, Painful): Potato Mine (Any Vegetable in the Potato Mine may often post a comment to the GNDT saying “Mining: DICE3”. E then gains Net Worth equal to the result of the DICE3 roll but may not leave the Potato Mine for 48 hours after e posted the comment.Vegetables who have fallen on hard times are often forced to work in the low-paying potato mining industry.)
“Look over yonder.
Is that a dead rat, or what?”
“No—just Clucky’s beard.”
Times out at 4-1. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 12 Oct 2006 08:17:33 UTC
Change the description of “Mischievous” in the rule “Special Enhancements” to
When this Vegetable is consumed, e gains one Mischief Fedora.
Create a rule entitled Mischief:
All Vegetables start with zero Mischief Fedoras.
A Vegetable with a positive number of Mischief Fedoras may, no more than once every 72 hours, decrease eir Mischief Fedoras by one and perform one of the following actions:
*Switch and Run===Switch and Run===
A Vegetable who performs a Switch and Run shall make a post to the main page in which e states in either a haiku or a limerick that e has made a Switch and Run. E may then change a single instance of a single alphabetical character to another distinct alphabetical character. The post must clearly describe what character in what Rule is changed, and to what other character.If the Switch and Run causes the word or sentence it appears in to be mistakeable for a typographical error, it may be corrected like any other such error by any Admin, as per Rule 1.
No character-instance may be changed in this way if:
* it is in any of the Core Rules, the Glossary, or this Rule, OR
* the word it is in is “Vegetable” or a GNDT column heading, OR
* the hatxx0rati0n would cause the Rule the character appears in to become inconsistent or incoherent, in whole or in part, OR
* the hatxx0rati0n would change the word the character appears into a Vegetables’s name.
Create a GNDT column entitled “MischiefFedoras”
Set all Mischief Fedoras to 0.
Thelonious, epylar, gazebo_dude.
Quorum equals five.
I’ve been busy and don’t like to hold up the quorum. Quorum is still seven.
Reaches Quorum (5-1)
Enacted by Hix
Adminned at 10 Oct 2006 20:30:58 UTC
Rewrite the description of “Democracy” in Rule 2.3.1 as follows:
Democratic- When the votes are counted on a Proposal, the value of each vote from a Democratic Vegetable is multiplied by eir Exoticity. However, if this would cause eir vote not to count at all, it instead counts as half a vote. One Veggie, one vote. At least in theory…
Passes at 6-1. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 09 Oct 2006 14:11:25 UTC
If the Proposal titled “Something To Stroke” failed, this Proposal does nothing.
Add a new rule, The Rule Formerly Known As Proposal:
A vegetable may often challenge another vegetable to a beard-dyeing competition, if such a competition hasn’t been resolved that day and both vegetables have a Beard Length of at least 16, by making a post either insulting the other vegetable’s beard or announcing the awesomeness of cheese, beards or cheesy beards, AND insulting the other vegetable’s beard, or lack thereof.
The other vegetable may accept within 24 hours by responding to that post, either asking the way to the railway station in a foreign language, or claiming Elvis is alive, preferably also in a foreign language.If the challenge is accepted within 24 hours, it is immediately resolved, and the beard-dyeing competition is held, with both vegetables as its contestants. The vegetable with the best dyed beard wins.
For the purposes of last paragraph, ‘the beard-dyeing competition’ is defined as ‘A DICEN check for each contestant, where N is the number of entries on the Tasty List.’, ‘held’ is defined as ‘made’, and ‘The vegetable with the best dyed beard’ is defined as ‘If one contestant’s DICEN check corresponds with the vegetable named ‘Purplebeard’ and the other’s doesn’t, the first wins. If the results are equal, roll again. Otherwise, the contestant whose result is closest to 5*pi’.
The winning contestant of a beard-dyeing competition receives Beard Length equal to half eir DICEN check, rounded down. The other (losing) contestant loses Beard Length equal to half eir DICEN check, rounded up.
Passes at 5-0. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 09 Oct 2006 14:08:47 UTC
If the Rule “Beards” does not exist, this Proposal does nothing.
Change the column entitled “NetWorth” to “BeardLength”. Set each Vegetable’s Beard Length to the value of eir Net Worth at the time that the proposal “Something to Stroke” was enacted.
Self-Killed. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 09 Oct 2006 14:07:18 UTC
the Proposal titled “Something To Stroke” failed, this Proposal does nothing.
Add a new rule, The Rule Formerly Known As Proposal:
A vegetable may often challenge another vegetable to a beard-dyeing competition, if such a competition hasn’t been resolved that day and both vegetables have a Beard Length of at least 16, by making a post either insulting the other vegetable’s beard or announcing the awesomeness of cheese, beards or cheesy beards, AND insulting the other vegetable’s beard, or lack thereof.
The other vegetable may accept within 24 hours by responding to that post, either asking the way to the railway station in a foreign language, or claiming Elvis is alive, preferably also in a foreign language.If the challenge is accepted within 24 hours, it is immediately resolved, and the beard-dyeing competition is held, with both vegetables as its contestants. The vegetable with the best dyed beard wins.
For the purposes of last paragraph, ‘the beard-dyeing competition’ is defined as ‘A DICEN check for each contestant, where N is the number of entries on the Tasty List.’, ‘held’ is defined as ‘made’, and ‘The vegetable with the best dyed beard’ is defined as ‘If one contestant’s DICEN check corresponds with the vegetable named ‘Purplebeard’ and the other’s doesn’t, the first wins. If the results are equal, roll again. Otherwise, the contestant whose result is closest to 5*pi’.
The winning contestant of a beard-dyeing competition receives Beard Length equal to half eir DICEN check, rounded down. The other contestant loses Beard Length equal to half eir DICEN check, rounded up.
Passes at 5-0. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 09 Oct 2006 14:01:55 UTC
Retitle the rule “The Market” to “Beards” and change the contents of the rule to the following:
Each Vegetable has a beard attached to it, the length (in millimeters) of which is tracked in the GNDT in a column “Beard Lengthâ€. New Vegetables start with 50 Beard Length.
=== Selling ===
Often, a Vegetable with non-zero Exoticity may sell its soul in exchange for a longer beard. When a Vegetable does this, e must post notice to the front page. This increases eir Beard Length by E*(T+H)/2 where E is eir Exoticity, H is eir Healthfulness, and T is eir Tastiness; but resets eir Healthfulness and Tastiness to 5 and eir Exoticity to 0.
Throughout the ruleset, replace the phrase “Net Worth” with “Beard Length” (A simple Find and Replace will do.)
Replace “These seedy Veggies know that money can buy anything.” with “These seedy Veggies know that beards can buy anything”
This isn’t an official post.
Timed out (1-4)
Failed by Hix
Adminned at 09 Oct 2006 13:48:31 UTC
Add two new DLs to the list in Rule 2.6.1:
(Wet, Cool, Dark, Strange, Luxurious): Bob’s Fertilizer Bar
(Dry, Cool, Dark, Strange, Painful): The Freezer (This is the place where we keep really, really bad Veggies. Vegetables in The Freezer may not change eir own DL.)
Add a new subrule to Rule 2.6, and call it “Plant Food”. Give it the following text:
Each Vegetable in Bob’s Fertilizer Bar may often do one of the following if eir Net Worth is high enough:
*Decrease eir Net Worth by 2 to increase eir Healthfuless by 1.
*Decrease eir Net Worth by 2 to increase eir Tastiness by 1.
*Decrease eir Net Worth by 6 to post a comment to the GNDT containing the text “Fertilizer: DICE2 2DICE3” If the result of the DICE2 roll is 1, e increases eir Healthfulness by the result of the second roll. If the result of the DICE2 roll is 2, e increases eir Tastiness by the result of the second roll.
*Buy in bulk. Decrease eir Net Worth by 20 to do the following 12 times: Pick a Vegetable and increase that Vegetable’s Tastiness or Healthfulness by 1.
Timed out (5-0)
Enacted by Hix
Adminned at 08 Oct 2006 11:16:18 UTC
Elias asked for it…
Create a rule call “Activities”
Create a GNDT column called “Activityâ€.
Each vegetable must at all times be doing an activity, marked in the properly named GNDT column, activity.
A vegetable may often change eir activity to anything e so pleases.
All new vegetables start with the activity “Chillingâ€. If for some reason a vegetable does not have an activity, then it should switch to chilling. A vegetable may always switch back to chilling, even if e has already changed eir activity that day.
Create a subrule of “Activities†called “Rubbing Offâ€
If two or more vegetables have been performing the same activity for at least 24 hours, and that activity is not “Chilling†then any vegetable performing that activity may set the inclination of the other vegetables performing the same activity, provided they have been performing it for at least 24 hours, to match that of eir own. E need not change the inclination of every vegetable.
I apologize. I made a mistake. When I came up with this theme, I thought it would be a surreal dynasty, with loads of crazy rules, but clearly, it’s not yet what I’ve hoped. However, I should have made it clearer on what direction I mean for this dynasty to go. By starting out the dynasty with a sonnet, I’ve forsaken clearer instructions on what I wish to happen.
I know that it’s hard to think of ideas for a Vegetable dynasty. What can Vegetables do? There are the simple answers, like being watered and eaten, but it doesn’t stop there. Vegetables can do anything. They can sing at karaoke bars, breakdance in night clubs, play Twister while drunk, grow beards and dye them purple, play Food-Tongue Scrabble, have unicycle races, travel back in time in 1985 DeLoreans, and even get struck by 1.21 gigawatts of lightning.
They can do everything that Werewolves do. They can do everything that Vampires do. They can do everything that Robots do. They can do everything that Peasants, Movie Stars, Superheroes, Kings, Queens, Zombies, and Mad Scientists can do. In short, feel free to go beyond the cooking and eating of Vegetables.
I’m mostly to blame for this, since I myself haven’t proposed much to this effect, but I hope that this makes things a bit more clear.
If you want some ideas, go ahead and look through the dynastic histories at past proposals.
Times out at 3-1. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 07 Oct 2006 03:59:20 UTC
Add a subrule to the Rule entitled “Politics in the Garden”. Give it the title “Politicalities” and the following text:
Having various Inclinations has some other effects:
Anarchist- These Vegetables are considered to be Rotten for the purposes of this Rule.
Communist- If more than one Vegetable has this Inclination, each Vegetable in this faction with an Exoticity less than 2 may often decrease by 1 the Net Worth of another Vegetable with Communist Inclination and a higher Net Worth than em, in order to increase eir own Net Worth by 1.
Dictatorship-These Vegetables fiercely support the Top Banana and will likely oppose all attepmts to de-throne em. The effects of having this Inclination are varied and listed in the appropriate rule(s).
Democratic- When the votes are counted on a Proposal, the value of each vote from a Democratic Vegetable is multiplied by eir Exoticity. One Veggie, one vote. At least in theory…
Monarchist- A Monarchist Vegetable’s Royal Blood Score(RBS) is equal to eir Tastiness times eir Exoticity. If the total Net Worth of all Vegetables with this inclination is greater than the total net worth of all Vegetables with other Inclinations besides Anarchist, then the Monarchist Vegetable with the highest RBS has acheived victory unless another Monarchist Vegetable has the same RBS.
Tangelocracy- These seedy Veggies know that money can buy anything. Any Vegetable with this Inclination and may reduce eir Net Worth by 35 to become Mischevious. E may also reduce eir Net Worth by 15 to make another Vegetable Fried. However, if either of these would make eir Net Worth negative, goons show up and set eir Net Worth and Exoticity to 0 and Healthfulness to 1, at which point eir Inclination becomes Anarchist.
Theocracy- Each Vegetable with this Inclination may often make a comment to the GNDT with text “Praying for rain. DICE20”. If the result of the DICE roll is 3, e increases eir Tastiness by 3. If the result is 2, e increases the Tastiness of all Vegetables with this Inclination by 2. If the result is 18, 19 or 20, e increases everyone’s Tastiness by 1, except for eir own.
Quorum of FOR votes.
Adminned by Hix.
Adminned at 05 Oct 2006 08:06:36 UTC
Describing the issue: New Vegetables don’t get all their stats initialized.
Measures that shall be taken to resolve it (if this CfJ passes): Add the sentence “New Vegetables start with 5 Tastiness, 5 Healthfulness, and 0 Exoticity.” to the “Taste Sensations” Rule. For the purposes of any Vegetables who first joined the Dynasty after the creation of that Rule (including, but not necessarily limited to Bucky), treat their stats as if the sentence had always been part of the Rule.
I will be “updating” the GNDT (right now) under the assumption that this CfJ will pass. Unless it seems that this CfJ will not pass, Vegetables are advised to take actions assuming that Bucky does, indeed, have all eir stats.
Fails 1-7. -Purplebeard
This was in fact posted before the other proposal, but EE is changing the timestamp whenever I admin this.
Adminned at 05 Oct 2006 07:42:24 UTC
Undo the effects of all proposals (except this one) made so far this Dynasty and allow the Top Banana to choose a new theme, granting em the ability to rename terms in the ruleset as e could at the beginning of the Dynasty.
I’m just finding this Dynasty stifling of ideas, and I don’t think I’m the only Vegetable who is feeling that way, judging by the extremely small number of proposals that have arisen. I think it’s partly the fault of the theme, and partly the fault of the current ruleset (a glop of unrelated mechanics) we have. I think it’s early enough in the Dynasty that a total reset wouldn’t kill it, and would, hopefully, spark the sort of proposal flurry that is often seen at the beginnings of Dynasties, where people are excited about the theme and ways to explore it.
Hopefully I end up posting at least once per week…
Times out at 1-5. -Purplebeard
Adminned at 06 Oct 2006 03:24:15 UTC
So, if the last proposal passed was written by Cayvie, let Cayvie be the Top Banana and have the ability to write an Ascension Address in which e chooses a new theme and respective keywords for “Top Banana” and “Vegetable”. Additionally, let it be seen as if the Second Dynasty of Elias IX had never happened. That is, if there are ever any references to it in the Blognomic wiki, those references shall be removed.
(Dry, Hot, Dark, Strange, Painful) - Garbage pile - Where rotten vegetables go after the Harvest.
(Wet, Hot, Light, Strange, Luxurious) - Weed Jungle - Only Vegetables with an Exoticity of at least 2 can go here.
We really need a way to express most of a (current) ruleset as a finite state machine or the like. (Like perlnomic but simpler and still run by humans, not computers).
I request to be made idle. I won’t have regular internet access for a few weeks.